Redesigning Surgical Care for Patients in Wisconsin

April 28, 2026 updated by: University of Wisconsin, Madison

Redesigning Surgical Care to Support the Health Outcome Goals and Care Preferences for Older Adults: Better Conversations for Better Informed Consent

This study evaluates strategies to train surgeons to use Better Conversations, an evidence-based communication framework designed to improve informed consent by helping patients understand the goals of surgery, the downsides of treatment, and what to expect. Better Conversations supports deliberation, patient preparation, and alignment of decisions with patient goals, addressing known shortcomings in traditional informed consent.

The purpose of this study is to compare two methods of surgeon training: (1) training delivered by an education specialist using audit and feedback, and (2) training supported by computerized automation that identifies elements of Better Conversations in de-identified transcripts of surgical consultations. The central question is whether the automated training program is non-inferior to the specialist-delivered program.

Approximately 60 surgeons from two academic health systems will be randomized to one of these training approaches. Each surgeon will complete a didactic session, have outpatient surgical consultations audio-recorded for feedback, and complete assessment recordings after training. Patients of enrolled surgeons will complete surveys before and after their surgeon's training to evaluate patient-reported communication outcomes.

Findings from this study will assess the effectiveness, feasibility, and acceptability of automated training and support the development of a larger pragmatic study to evaluate the broader effects of Better Conversations on patient outcomes.

Study Overview

Detailed Description

This study evaluates two training strategies to help surgeons use Better Conversations, an evidence-based communication framework that improves informed consent by supporting patient understanding, deliberation, and preparation for surgery. Prior work by the investigative team shows that Better Conversations addresses shortcomings in traditional consent practices, aligns with quality improvement standards, and is well-received by surgeons and patients.

This is a non-inferiority trial comparing (1) audit-and-feedback training delivered by an education specialist and (2) an automated training approach that uses natural language processing and active machine learning to identify key elements of Better Conversations in de-identified transcripts of surgical consultations. Automated output is reviewed and finalized by the education specialist before being shared with surgeons. The hypothesis is that automated training will be non-inferior to specialist-delivered training, with a 5% non-inferiority margin.

The study also evaluates feasibility and acceptability of training a large number of surgeons across two institutions. Feasibility is defined as training at least 80% of surgeons to competence. Acceptability will be assessed using surgeon surveys and exit interviews, and patient-reported outcomes. Patients will complete validated surveys (Feeling Heard and Understood; CAHPS Surgical Care items) before and after their surgeon's training. A subset of patients will participate in interviews regarding their consultation experience. A separate group of patients will consent to have their consultations audio recorded solely for surgeon training or assessment purposes.

Sixty surgeons from UW Health and the Medical College of Wisconsin will be randomized, stratified by site, to one of the two training groups. All surgeons will begin with a 30-minute didactic session, followed by 10 training recordings with corresponding feedback, and 5-7 assessment recordings used to evaluate competence. Consultations will be audio recorded, transcribed, and de-identified prior to feedback and analysis. Competence will be evaluated using a standardized adherence checklist developed by the study team, assessing both the presence and quality of required communication elements.

This study will generate estimates of within- and between-surgeon variation in communication performance and patient-reported outcomes. These data will inform analytic planning and power calculations for a future pragmatic trial examining the broader impact of Better Conversations on patient decision making, satisfaction, and health outcomes.

Study Type

Interventional

Enrollment (Estimated)

660

Phase

  • Not Applicable

Contacts and Locations

This section provides the contact details for those conducting the study, and information on where this study is being conducted.

Study Locations

    • Wisconsin
      • Madison, Wisconsin, United States, 53792
        • UW Health
      • Milwaukee, Wisconsin, United States, 53226
        • Medical College of Wisconsin

Participation Criteria

Researchers look for people who fit a certain description, called eligibility criteria. Some examples of these criteria are a person's general health condition or prior treatments.

Eligibility Criteria

Ages Eligible for Study

  • Adult
  • Older Adult

Accepts Healthy Volunteers

No

Description

Inclusion Criteria (Surgeons):

  • Surgeons who work in the University of Wisconsin-Madison and Medical College of Wisconsin who have an outpatient surgical clinic and treat adult patients at UW Health or Froedtert Hospital and MCW

Inclusion Criteria (Patients):

  • Adult patients with decision making capacity
  • Presenting to an enrolled surgeon's clinic with a surgical problem to discuss treatment

Exclusion Criteria (Surgeons):

  • Surgeons who solely treat minors (under age 18), i.e., pediatric surgeons, will be excluded from this study, but training will be made available to them outside of this study.
  • Surgeons at UWH who have previously been trained to use Better Conversations (25 surgeons) are excluded.

Exclusion Criteria (Patients):

  • Adult patients who do not have decision making capacity will be excluded.
  • Individuals who do not speak English will be excluded.

Study Plan

This section provides details of the study plan, including how the study is designed and what the study is measuring.

How is the study designed?

Design Details

  • Primary Purpose: Health Services Research
  • Allocation: Randomized
  • Interventional Model: Parallel Assignment
  • Masking: Triple

Arms and Interventions

Participant Group / Arm
Intervention / Treatment
Active Comparator: Control - Education Specialist Delivered Training
Surgeons receive standard audit-and-feedback training delivered by an education specialist, including a brief didactic session and feedback on 10 de-identified outpatient consultations. Five additional recordings are used to assess performance with an adherence checklist.
Training in the Better Conversations framework delivered by an education specialist, including a brief didactic session and audit-and-feedback based on 10 de-identified outpatient consultations, followed by assessment using five additional recordings scored with an adherence checklist.
Other Names:
  • Better Conversations
  • Better Conversations for Better Informed Consent
Experimental: Intervention A - Automated Training
Surgeons receive automated audit-and-feedback training. De-identified transcripts from 10 consultations are processed with previously developed natural language processing, and an education specialist reviews and edits the automated output. Five additional recordings are assessed using the same checklist.
Training in the Better Conversations framework supported by computerized automation. Procedures match the education-specialist approach (didactic session; 10 training recordings; 5-7 assessment recordings). For each training consultation, the de-identified transcript is processed using previously developed natural language processing with active/supervised machine learning to identify elements of Better Conversations that are present or absent and common errors. An education specialist reviews and edits the automated output and emails feedback and a score sheet within one week using the same standardized format. In one half of the automated-training arm, surgeons also receive intermittent disclosure messages indicating that some feedback is computer-generated.
Other Names:
  • Better Conversations
  • Better Conversations for Better Informed Consent
Experimental: Intervention B - Automated Training with Disclosure Messaging
Identical to Intervention A with the addition that surgeons receive intermittent disclosure messages indicating that some feedback is computer-generated. Assessment and scoring procedures match the other arms and use the adherence checklist with a competence threshold.
Training in the Better Conversations framework supported by computerized automation. Procedures match the education-specialist approach (didactic session; 10 training recordings; 5-7 assessment recordings). For each training consultation, the de-identified transcript is processed using previously developed natural language processing with active/supervised machine learning to identify elements of Better Conversations that are present or absent and common errors. An education specialist reviews and edits the automated output and emails feedback and a score sheet within one week using the same standardized format. In one half of the automated-training arm, surgeons also receive intermittent disclosure messages indicating that some feedback is computer-generated.
Other Names:
  • Better Conversations
  • Better Conversations for Better Informed Consent

What is the study measuring?

Primary Outcome Measures

Outcome Measure
Measure Description
Time Frame
Percentage of surgeons trained to competence
Time Frame: At completion of the assessment phase (after 10 training recordings and 5 assessment recordings per surgeon), approximately 3-12 months
Competence is assessed using the established 10-item adherence checklist, yielding a total possible score ranging from 0 to 10, applied to the five assessment audio recordings obtained after each surgeon completes the 10 training recordings. Higher scores indicate greater fidelity to the Better Conversations framework, competence is 6 or higher. The performance of surgeons in the automated-training group will be compared with those in the education-specialist training group, and non-inferiority will be evaluated using a 5% non-inferiority margin. Feasibility is defined as greater than or equal to 80 percent of surgeons trained to competence.
At completion of the assessment phase (after 10 training recordings and 5 assessment recordings per surgeon), approximately 3-12 months

Secondary Outcome Measures

Outcome Measure
Measure Description
Time Frame
Surgeon assessment score
Time Frame: At completion of the assessment phase (after 10 training recordings and 5 assessment recordings per surgeon), approximately 3-12 months
For each treatment group, the mean and standard deviation of surgeons' assessment scores (range 0-10) will be reported. Higher scores indicate higher competence.
At completion of the assessment phase (after 10 training recordings and 5 assessment recordings per surgeon), approximately 3-12 months
Feeling Heard and Understood
Time Frame: Within 7 days of each patient's surgical consultation; analyzed relative to each surgeon's training completion (pre vs post)
The mean and standard deviation of Feeling Heard and Understood scores before and after surgeon training will be reported. This patient-survey item uses a 5-point Likert scale (1 = Not at all true to 5 = Completely true), with higher scores indicating better perceived communication. It is used to assess acceptability to patients and preliminary changes associated with surgeon training. For each surgeon, a change score defined as the difference between post-training and pre-training scores will be computed. Surgeon-level change scores will be compared between groups using 95% confidence intervals.
Within 7 days of each patient's surgical consultation; analyzed relative to each surgeon's training completion (pre vs post)
Consumer Assessment of Healthcare Providers and Systems (CAHPS) Surgical Care survey
Time Frame: Within 7 days of each patient's surgical consultation; analyzed relative to surgeon training completion (pre vs post)
CAHPS Surgical Care survey items from 5 patients per surgeon pre-training and 5 patients post-training, aggregated per surgeon and by arm, to characterize patient experience of communication. Items include Yes/No responses (0-1), 3-point responses (0-2), and 4-point responses (0-3). Higher values indicate better experience and scores are expressed as a continuous percent, 0-100. Surgeon-level change scores will be compared between groups using 95% confidence intervals.
Within 7 days of each patient's surgical consultation; analyzed relative to surgeon training completion (pre vs post)
Surgeon Acceptability (Practitioner Opinion Survey)
Time Frame: At completion of the assessment phase (after 10 training recordings and 5 assessment recordings per surgeon), approximately 3-12 months
Practitioner Opinion Survey administered after training and assessment to evaluate surgeons' perspectives on the training and use of Better Conversations (e.g., usefulness and feasibility). Items use a 0-5 response scale, and higher scores indicate greater acceptability. Summarized overall and by arm. Scores are expressed as a continuous percent, 0-100.
At completion of the assessment phase (after 10 training recordings and 5 assessment recordings per surgeon), approximately 3-12 months

Collaborators and Investigators

This is where you will find people and organizations involved with this study.

Investigators

  • Principal Investigator: Margaret (Gretchen) L Schwarze, MD, MPP, UW School of Medicine and Public Health

Study record dates

These dates track the progress of study record and summary results submissions to ClinicalTrials.gov. Study records and reported results are reviewed by the National Library of Medicine (NLM) to make sure they meet specific quality control standards before being posted on the public website.

Study Major Dates

Study Start (Actual)

February 27, 2026

Primary Completion (Estimated)

March 31, 2028

Study Completion (Estimated)

August 31, 2028

Study Registration Dates

First Submitted

March 11, 2026

First Submitted That Met QC Criteria

March 11, 2026

First Posted (Actual)

March 16, 2026

Study Record Updates

Last Update Posted (Actual)

May 4, 2026

Last Update Submitted That Met QC Criteria

April 28, 2026

Last Verified

April 1, 2026

More Information

Terms related to this study

Additional Relevant MeSH Terms

Other Study ID Numbers

  • 2025-1648
  • SMPH / Surgery / WiSOR (Other Identifier: UW Madison)
  • Protocol Version 4/8/2026 (Other Identifier: UW Madison)

Plan for Individual participant data (IPD)

Plan to Share Individual Participant Data (IPD)?

NO

Drug and device information, study documents

Studies a U.S. FDA-regulated drug product

No

Studies a U.S. FDA-regulated device product

No

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